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Wikimania 2017 scholarship programme

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Following the tradition of previous years, Wikimedia Polska Association has launched the ’’’Wikimania 2017’’’ scholarship programme. One international scholarship will be awarded this year, for the conference which will take place in Montreal, Canada, August 9-13. If you meet the requirements described in the ruleset, you may submit your application by April 7, 2017 to the email address provided in the ruleset. With kind regards, Wojciech Pędzich (pogovor) 19:12, 21. marec 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Bo kdo od nas kandidiral za štipendijo? --xJaM (pogovor) 06:13, 23. marec 2017 (CET)[odgovori]
Bom razmislil. Si želiš kandidirati? --Eleassar pogovor 11:17, 23. marec 2017 (CET)[odgovori]
Lahko se dogovorimo in nekoga podpremo, ali pa se nas več prijavi, pa bodo koga morda izbrali. --Eleassar pogovor 11:21, 23. marec 2017 (CET)[odgovori]
Mene bi vsekakor zanimalo, vprašanje je, ali je imam(o) sploh kakšno šanso. Sem se prijavil že nekajkrat, nazadnje za London, pa vse skupaj ni bilo nič. V prvi vrsti me žene radovednost, malo pa tudi domotožje (kak teden ali dva po Ontariu, Algonquin, tja do Saut ste Marie ....). Pa obisk pri Dr Jamesu v Sick Kids, Toronto, preden letim nazaj ....SmozBleda (pogovor) 13:38, 28. marec 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]
To apply for a scholarship to attend Wikimania 2017, please submit a completed application form by 20 February 2017 23:59 UTC. It is highly recommended that applicants review all the material on this page and in the FAQ before submitting an application.

Št. Jurij, Grosuplje

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Predlagam preimenovanje članka Sveti Jurij, Grosuplje v Št. Jurij, Grosuplje. Táko je namreč ime kraja že v Atlasu Slovenije 1985 in 1992, na aktualni Geopediji in v Registru zemljepisnih imen (2007). --Hladnikm (pogovor) 18:21, 23. marec 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Je kak razlog, da tega ne bi naredili? Ker če ga ni, lahko jaz prestavim. --IP 213 (pogovor) 09:48, 29. marec 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Sv. Jurij pri Grosupljem je staro ime, leta 1952 je bil kraj preimenovan v Podtabor pri Grosupljem, leta 1992 pa je dobil sedanje ime Št. Jurij. Tako na strani Občine Grosuplje in v Priročnem krajevnem leksikonu Slovenije. Tukajšnji članek bi se potemtakem moral imenovati v neokrajšani uradni obliki Šent Jurij. --  Janezdrilc 15:26, 29. marec 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Čakaj, zakaj pa "Šent Jurij"? Če vsi viri (vključno z uradnimi, kot je Statistični urad) pišejo "Št. Jurij", potem mora biti na naslov Št. Jurij. — Yerpo Ha? 15:32, 29. marec 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Par let nazaj (2013) sem pisal Milanu Orožnu Adamiču glede »uradnih« okrajšanih imen, kot je na primer Sv. Ana v Slovenskih goricah (ta primer sem mu navedel). V odgovoru mi je odpisal tole:

Spoštovani!
Okrajšave, oziroma primeri zapisa krajevnih imen kot ga navajate ni polna in uradna oblika krajevnega imena.
V registru prostorskih enot morajo biti imena vedno zapisana brez okrajšav.
Se pa na žalost, v praksi skrajšane oblike zapisov, velikokrat uporabljajo, še posebej v primerih, ko je zapis imena dolg.
S spoštovanjem,
Milan Orožen Adamič

Na podlagi tega smo takrat (Pogovor o Wikipediji:Zapisovanje svetniških imen#Zapisovanje krajevnih imen) začeli pisati neokrajšana imena, zato pri nas noben naslov kakega slovenskega naselja še sedaj ne vsebuje pike. --  Janezdrilc 15:59, 29. marec 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Domačini pravijo kraju kar "Šentjurij," na tabli ob vhodu v kraj pa je vsaj nazadnje ko sem tam kolesaril pisalo polno ime "Sveti Jurij". Miha 20:46, 2. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Janezdrilc, imaš prav, sem že pozabil na tole. — Yerpo Ha? 21:11, 2. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Kakšen pa je sklep? Bomo prestavili? --IP 213 (pogovor) 09:35, 7. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

DaD Opravljeno, prestavil na Šent Jurij. --  Janezdrilc 12:20, 8. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Zakaj narazen? Če že potem skupaj ali pa okrajšano - tako je tudi na http://zupnija-sentjurij-pri-grosupljem.rkc.si/ in http://www.grosuplje.si/kraji/st-jurij.html, drugih spletnih strani pa o tem kraju ni. Miha 14:37, 8. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Ker je uradno ime očitno Šent Jurij (sicer večinoma pisano kot Št. Jurij) in ne Šentjurij. Gl. zgoraj! --IP 213 (pogovor) 17:21, 10. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Glasovanje za preverjevalca uporabnikov

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Odprl sem Wikipedija:Glasovanja/MZaplotnik in Romanm za preverjevalca uporabnikov, za ozadje glej stran z glasovanjem. Ker gre za odgovorno funkcijo, rabita oba široko podporo (20-25 glasov vsak), zato prosim vse uporabnike z glasovalno pravico, naj se izrečejo. — Yerpo Ha? 11:44, 25. marec 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Očitno je bila moja skrb odveč in smo že po par dneh dosegli kvorum. Vseeno naj pmm ostane glasovanje odprto kot na začetku določeno, le sitenotice lahko po kakšnem tednu snamemo, če se strinjate. — Yerpo Ha? 17:54, 27. marec 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Odziv je res kar malo presenetljiv – praktično v 48 urah je bila dosežena spodnja spodnja meja 25 glasov, sedaj pa še eden manjka, pa bo celo zgornja spodnja meja 30 glasov dosežena. Vsekakor vsaka čast wikipedistom za tako podporo. Očitno se da. --  Janezdrilc 19:24, 27. marec 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Nekaj predlogov na strani ima že precej brade. Če se ne bo nihče ukvarjal s tem, a lahko sam zaključim svoje predloge? Namreč kot "brez konsenza" pri tistih, kjer so utemeljeni glasovi proti, in brisanje tistih, kjer so samo glasovi za (čeprav samo en). Lahko se pa tudi kdo javi, da bo bolj bdel nad WP:PZB. — Yerpo Ha? 07:18, 30. marec 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Zaključi kar je potrebno. Javim se pa ne ;-)--Rude (pogovor) 08:13, 30. marec 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Glede na to, da že dlje časa ne uporabljamo več dvojnega licenciranja z GFDL, bi lahko licenco v vzorčnem besedilu na Wikipedija:Dokazilo o dovoljenju za objavo posodobili na Creative Commons Priznanje avtorstva-Deljenje pod enakimi pogoji 3.0, ali pa še bolje na 4.0, ki natančneje določa nekaj podrobnosti, še posebej v zvezi z odškodninskimi zahtevki. --Miha 15:32, 1. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Se strinjam. — Yerpo Ha? 17:09, 1. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]
DaD Opravljeno glede na to, da ni bilo pripomb sem spremenil kot je bilo predlagano, dodal sem tudi CC-BY-SA 4.0 v meni ob nalaganju datotek in ustrezne kategorije. lp, Miha 14:53, 8. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Biografije

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Po zaslugi nekaj angažiranih wikipedistov (predvsem Sporti in Rude) smo končno na pravi strani meje 10 % deleža biografij žensk, kot računa WHGI - to se je sicer zgodilo že prejšnji teden, ta teden smo stanje še utrdili. Še vedno pa je ogromno potenciala za napredek, saj tudi 10 % ni nek realen pokazatelj, koliko ta polovica populacije prispeva k družbi in še vedno smo drugi najslabši med vsemi merjenimi Wikipedijami. K novim zmagam (po možnosti tudi z več angažmaja wikipedistk)! — Yerpo Ha? 09:49, 3. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Please accept our apologies for cross-posting this message. This message is available for translation on Meta-Wiki.

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, I am pleased to announce that self-nominations are being accepted for the 2017 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees Elections.

The Board of Trustees (Board) is the decision-making body that is ultimately responsible for the long-term sustainability of the Wikimedia Foundation, so we value wide input into its selection. More information about this role can be found on Meta-Wiki. Please read the letter from the Board of Trustees calling for candidates.

The candidacy submission phase will last from April 7 (00:00 UTC) to April 20 (23:59 UTC).

We will also be accepting questions to ask the candidates from April 7 to April 20. You can submit your questions on Meta-Wiki.

Once the questions submission period has ended on April 20, the Elections Committee will then collate the questions for the candidates to respond to beginning on April 21.

The goal of this process is to fill the three community-selected seats on the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees. The election results will be used by the Board itself to select its new members.

The full schedule for the Board elections is as follows. All dates are inclusive, that is, from the beginning of the first day (UTC) to the end of the last.

  • April 7 (00:00 UTC) – April 20 (23:59 UTC) – Board nominations
  • April 7 – April 20 – Board candidates questions submission period
  • April 21 – April 30 – Board candidates answer questions
  • May 1 – May 14 – Board voting period
  • May 15–19 – Board vote checking
  • May 20 – Board result announcement goal

In addition to the Board elections, we will also soon be holding elections for the following roles:

  • Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC)
    • There are five positions being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.
  • Funds Dissemination Committee Ombudsperson (Ombuds)
    • One position is being filled. More information about this election will be available on Meta-Wiki.

Please note that this year the Board of Trustees elections will be held before the FDC and Ombuds elections. Candidates who are not elected to the Board are explicitly permitted and encouraged to submit themselves as candidates to the FDC or Ombuds positions after the results of the Board elections are announced.

More information on this year's elections can be found on Meta-Wiki. Any questions related to the election can be posted on the election talk page on Meta-Wiki, or sent to the election committee's mailing list, board-elections(at)wikimedia.org.

On behalf of the Election Committee,
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Joe Sutherland, Community Advocate, Wikimedia Foundation

Posted by MediaWiki message delivery on behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation Elections Committee, 05:36, 7. april 2017 (CEST) • Pomagajte prevesti v vaš jezikGet help

Read-only mode for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April and 3 May

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MediaWiki message delivery (pogovor) 19:34, 11. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Wikidata description editing in the Wikipedia Android app

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Wikidata description editing is a new experiment being rolled out on the Wikipedia app for Android. While this primarily impacts Wikidata, the changes are also addressing a concern about the mobile versions of Wikipedia, so that mobile users will be able to edit directly the descriptions shown under the title of the page and in the search results.

We began by rolling out this feature several weeks ago to a pilot group of Wikipedias (Russian, Hebrew, and Catalan), and have seen very positive results including numerous quality contributions in the form of new and updated descriptions, and a low rate of vandalism.

We are now ready for the next phase of rolling out this feature, which is to enable it in a few days for all Wikipedias except the top ten by usage within the app (i.e. except English, German, Italian, French, Spanish, Japanese, Dutch, Portuguese, Turkish, and Chinese). We will enable the feature for those languages instead at some point in the future, as we closely monitor user engagement with our expanded set of pilot communities. As always, if have any concerns, please reach out to us on wiki at the talk page for this project or by email at reading@wikimedia.org. Thanks!

-DBrant (WMF) 10:41, 14. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

New Page previews feature

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Na današnji dan

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Opozarjam na veliko število napak pri pomembnih dogodkih, rojstvih in smrtih, ki jih navaja slovenska Wikipedija pod posameznim datumom; velikokrat jih je zagrešil Uporabnik:Heretik. Popravim jih, ko naletim nanje: danes 24. aprila npr. za marseljezo in Evgena Savojskega, ki nimata obletnice danes, ampak prva šele pojutrišnjem (in ne 1742, temveč 1792), drugi pa jo je imel že pred dnevi. --Hladnikm (pogovor) 14:21, 24. april 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

New Wikipedia Library Accounts Available Now (May 2017)

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Hello Wikimedians!

The TWL OWL says sign up today!

The Wikipedia Library is announcing signups today for free, full-access, accounts to published research as part of our Publisher Donation Program. You can sign up for new accounts and research materials from:

Expansions

  • Gale – Biography In Context database added
  • Adam Matthew – all 53 databases now available

Many other partnerships with accounts available are listed on our partners page, including Project MUSE, EBSCO, Taylor & Francis and Newspaperarchive.com.

Do better research and help expand the use of high quality references across Wikipedia projects: sign up today!
--The Wikipedia Library Team 20:52, 2. maj 2017 (CEST)

You can host and coordinate signups for a Wikipedia Library branch in your own language. Please contact Aaron.
This message was delivered via the Global Mass Message tool to The Wikipedia Library Global Delivery List.

21:14, 3. maj 2017 (CEST)

Mejnik

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Danes smo presegli mejnik 5 milijonov urejanj. Po 2,5 (zaokroženo) na prebivalca Slovenije, vključno z novorojenčki :P — Yerpo Ha? 15:55, 5. maj 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Izbrana slika

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Pri izbrani sliki za ta teden imam pomislek. Na fotografiji prav gotovo ni navadni regrat, nisem pa povsem prepričan, katera vrsta je dejansko predstavljena. Menim, da gre za gladki regrat (Taraxacum laevigatum), ki ima nazobčane venčne liste.--Rude (pogovor) 11:34, 8. maj 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Beta Feature Two Column Edit Conflict View

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Birgit Müller (WMDE) 16:42, 8. maj 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Prototype for editing Wikidata infoboxes on Wikipedia

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Hello,

I’m sorry for writing in English. It’d be great if someone could translate this message if necessary.

One of the most requested features for Wikidata is to enable editing of Wikidata’s data directly from Wikipedia, so the editors can continue their workflow without switching websites.

The Wikidata development team has been working on a tool to achieve this goal: fill and edit the Wikipedia infoboxes with information from Wikidata, directly on Wikipedia, via the Visual Editor.

We already asked for feedback in 2015, and collected some interesting ideas which we shared with you in this thesis. Now we would like to present to you our first prototype and collect your feedback, in order to improve and continue the development of this feature.

We present this work to you very early, so we can include your feedback before and all along the development. You are the core users of this feature, so we want to make sure that it fits your needs and editing processes.

You will find the prototype, description of the features, and a demo video, on this page. Feel free to add any comment or feedback on the talk page. The page is currently not translated in every languages, but you can add your contribution by helping to translate it.

Unfortunately, I won’t be able to follow all the discussions on Wikipedia, so if you want to be sure that your feedback is read, please add it on the Wikidata page, in your favorite language. Thanks for your understanding.

Thanks, Lea Lacroix (WMDE)

RevisionSlider

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Birgit Müller (WMDE) 16:44, 16. maj 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

23:09, 16. maj 2017 (CEST)

New notification when a page is connected to Wikidata

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Hello all,

(Pomagajte prevesti v vaš jezik)

The Wikidata development team is about to deploy a new feature on all Wikipedias. It is a new type of notification (via Echo, the notification system you see at the top right of your wiki when you are logged in), that will inform the creator of a page, when this page is connected to a Wikidata item.

You may know that Wikidata provides a centralized system for all the interwikilinks. When a new page is created, it should be connected to the corresponding Wikidata item, by modifying this Wikidata item. With this new notification, editors creating pages will be informed when another editor connects this page to Wikidata.

This feature will be deployed on May 30th on all the Wikipedias, excepting English, French and German. This feature will be disable by default for existing editors, and enabled by default for new editors.

This is the first step of the deployments, the Wikipedias and other Wikimedia projects will follow in the next months.

If you have any question, suggestion, please let me know by pinging me. You can also follow and leave a comment on the Phabricator ticket.

Thanks go to Matěj Suchánek who developed this feature!

Hvala! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) (talk)

Zastarel Resourceloader in/ali vtičniki

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SpecialContents@Translation se mi je (spet) obesil. In sicer pri 95% končanega ölanka (duh...) Ko sem malo pobrskal (javbaScript console), se je pokazalo naslednje:

Gadget "Navigation_popups" was not loaded. Please migrate it to use ResourceLoader. See <https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:Vti%C4%8Dniki>.  Special:ContentTranslation:1:45
Gadget "refToolbar" was not loaded. Please migrate it to use ResourceLoader. See <https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:Vti%C4%8Dniki>.  Special:ContentTranslation:1:215
Gadget "wikEd" was not loaded. Please migrate it to use ResourceLoader. See <https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:Vti%C4%8Dniki>.  Special:ContentTranslation:1:378
Gadget "SearchBox" was not loaded. Please migrate it to use ResourceLoader. See <https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:Vti%C4%8Dniki>.  Special:ContentTranslation:1:536
Gadget "mySandbox" was not loaded. Please migrate it to use ResourceLoader. See <https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:Vti%C4%8Dniki>.  Special:ContentTranslation:1:698
Gadget "Drop-down_menus" was not loaded. Please migrate it to use ResourceLoader. See <https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posebno:Vti%C4%8Dniki>.  Special:ContentTranslation:1:860
Gadget "Navigation_popups" styles loaded twice. Migrate to type=general. See <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RL/MGU#Gadget_type>.  Special:ContentTranslation:1:1028
This page is using the deprecated ResourceLoader module "es5-shim".
Use of the "es5-shim" module is deprecated since MediaWiki 1.29.0  load.php:1:74
Use of "wgIsArticle" is deprecated. Use mw.config instead.  load.php:153:969
Use of "wgUserName" is deprecated. Use mw.config instead.  load.php:153:969
Use of "wgArticleId" is deprecated. Use mw.config instead.  load.php:153:969
Use of "wgAction" is deprecated. Use mw.config instead.

Na strani Vtičniki je naveden cel kup urejevalnih vtičnikov, ki jih skuša zastareli ResourceLoader naložiti. Pa mu zaradi-

Use of the "es5-shim" module is deprecated since MediaWiki 1.29.0  

- ne uspe;/ Ali lahko jaz sam naredim kaj, da se stvar pozdravi? SmozBleda (pogovor) 11:11, 21. maj 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Se mi zdi, da je Smihael včasih skrbel za te stvari, zdaj pa že dolgo nihče ne. Ali vsaj ne zelo ažurno. --IP 213 (pogovor) 10:28, 23. maj 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Dajte me spomnit čez kakšen mesec, da si pogledam, kako zadevo prenesti na nadgrajen sistem. Sicer pa bi to zagotovo znal popravit tudi Dbc334 (če je še aktiven) ter Pinky (če ima čas). --Miha 12:17, 17. junij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Zastarel Resourceloader in/ali vtičniki?

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Tole so ugotovili dobri angeli na Phabricatorju (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162251 - A missing template (i.e. SL copy of the EN template - ?) freezes the translation)

 ... With @Nikerabbit's help I found that this is a local problem in the Slovenian Wikipedia. See https://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pogovor_o_MediaWiki:Common.js#Gumbi . A Slovenian Wikipedia administrator will be able to fix it. After it's fixed, this shouldn't happen any more.
Sem popravila poskusila popraviti MediaWiki:Gumbi.js, pa je očitno zame preveč neznank. Nisem najbolj usposobljena za JavaScript. Je pa urejanje člankov v tem trenutno zelo onemogočeno, ker včasih vidim vrstico zgornji del urejevalnega okna, včasih pa ne (to je tisti del kjer imaš gumb za podpis, ....; v spodnjem delu pa, ko nastopi težava, tudi ne deluje kar nekaj gumbov. --Pinky sl (pogovor) 00:01, 27. junij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]
Hi, Pinky ... Če mi zaupaš, kako pridem do izvorne kode, se lahko tudi sam lotim teh gumbov - nekaj izkušenj z Javascript imam, upam, da nisem vsega pozabil:) PS: do mediawiki:gumbi.js sem že prišel, ampak to je nekako tako kot pri Dungeons and Dragons: "aha, tu je vhod v tunel...". Mogoče se me bo Aharoni, ki je vzrok problema našel, še spomnil iz najinih Mozilla časov in mi priskočil na pomoč ...SmozBleda (pogovor) 13:03, 4. julij 2017 (CEST) SmozBleda (pogovor) 12:56, 4. julij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]


Sem popravila naše vtičnike, da se nalagajo pravilno. Kljub temu je bilo nekaj vtičnikov treba izklopiti (lahko pogledate zgodovino MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition. Nekateri vtičniki ne delujejo, če imate v nastavitvah vklopljeno kakšno Preizkusno funkcijo (nagajalo je pri WikEd .... katera funkcija nagaja pa nisem preverila). Kakšen vtičnik pa kljub vsemu trudu še ne dela pravilno. Pinky sl (pogovor) 13:24, 26. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2017: call for delegates and speakers

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Hello! On behalf of Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2017 Team I would like to inform you that we have already opened our call for participants! CEE Meeting 2017 will be held in Warsaw, Poland from 22 September to 25 September. It will be the largest gathering of Wikimedians from Central and Eastern Europe (CEE region) this year. Delegates from your community are also invited to take part! You can find all the details on how to register here. We have also opened the call for programme applications - why don't you become a speaker at CEE Meeting? If you have any questions, please contact us at ceemeeting@wikimedia.pl. Best regards from Wikimedia Polska! Powerek38 (pogovor) 20:58, 21. maj 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

23:06, 23. maj 2017 (CEST)

Državljanstvo oseb v Wikipodatkih

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Vpisovanje državljanstva med Wikipodatke je pogosto komplicirano, npr. Marjana Grasselli Prosenc se je rodila v AO, potem je treba navesti Državo SHS, nato bi bilo treba Kraljevino SHS, pa te možnosti ni, nato Kraljevino Jugoslavijo, med vojno je spadala pod provinco Lubiana, po vojni pa so sledile FNRJ, FLRJ, SFRJ. Informacija o spremembah državnih okvirov v življenju človeka so seveda v redu, žal pa je pri osebi ponavadi od vseh držav zapisana samo ena. Med izbirnimi možnostmi manjka država Socialistična federativna republika Slovenija (s svojo zastavo), ki bi veliko ustrezneje označevala domače osebe iz obdobja po drugi svetovni vojni. --Hladnikm (pogovor) 08:00, 27. maj 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Ker je bila Provincia di Lubiana Italiji priključena v nasprotju z mednarodnim pravom, lahko vsaj to mirno spustiš. :)
Je pa v naših krajih reč res komplicirana, tako da so upravičene poenostavitve: vse Jugoslavije so mednarodnopravno ena država, ki ima več imen, zato bi to vsekakor lahko združevali. In še kaj podobnega: Avstrijsko cesarstvo in Avstro-Ogrska (ki - če hočemo komplicirati - sicer ni imela skupnega državljanstva). --IP 213 (pogovor) 12:30, 27. maj 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

What do you care for most? What are you concerned with? Take part in the strategy discussion

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Zdrávo! I'm sorry that I'm not writing in Slovene. Pomagajte prevesti v vaš jezik!

The more involved we are, the more ideas or wishes concerning the future of Wikipedia we have. We want to change some things, but other things we prefer not to be changed at all, and we can explain why for each of those things. At some point, we don’t think only about the recent changes or personal lists of to-dos, but also about, for example, groups of users, the software, institutional partners, money!, etc. When we discuss with other Wikimedians, we want them to have at least similar priorities that we have. Otherwise, we feel we wasted our time and efforts.

We need to find something that could be predictable, clear and certain to everybody. A uniting idea that would be more nearby and close to the every day’s reality than the Vision (every human can freely share in the sum of all knowledge).

But people contribute to Wikimedia in so many ways. The thing that should unite us should also fit various needs of editors and affiliates from many countries. What’s more, we can’t ignore other groups of people who care about or depend on us, like regular donors or “power readers” (people who read our content a lot and often).

That’s why we’re running the movement strategy discussions. Between 2019 and 2034, the main idea that results from these discussions, considered by Wikimedians as the most important one, will influence big and small decisions, e.g. in grant programs, or software development. For example: are we more educational, or more IT-like?

We want to take into account everybody’s voice. Really: each community is important. We don’t want you to be or even feel excluded.

Please, if you are interested in the Wikimedia strategy, follow these steps:

  • Have a look at this page. There are drafts of 5 potential candidates for the strategic priority. You can comment on the talk pages. Languages other than English are OK.
  • Tell those Wikipedians who don't know English that we're waiting for their comments as well!
  • The last day for the discussion is June, 12. Later, we’ll read all your comments, and shortly after that, there’ll be another round of discussions (see the timeline). I will give you more details before that happens.
  • If you have any questions, ask me. If you ask me here, mention me please.

Friendly disclaimer: this message wasn't written by a bot, a bureaucrat or a person who doesn't care about your project. I’m a Polish Wikipedian, and I hope my words are straightforward enough. SGrabarczuk (WMF) (pogovor) 11:49, 8. junij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Wikidata changes now also appear in enhanced recent changes

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Hello, and sorry to write this message in English. You can help translating it.

Starting from today, you will be able to display Wikidata changes in both modes of the recent changes and the watchlist.

Read and translate the full message

Hvala! Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 10:33, 29. junij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

(wrong target page? you can fix it here)

Accessible editing buttons

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Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 00:23, 11. julij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Statistična analiza slovenskih besedil

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Omenjana tudi Wikipedija: https://repozitorij.uni-lj.si/IzpisGradiva.php?id=26131 --Andrejj (pogovor) 22:38, 11. julij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Zanimivo, hvala za povezavo! --romanm (pogovor) 09:17, 12. julij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

V zadnjem času se s tem ukvarja tudi Darja Fišer s FF, ki na primer z Wikipedijinim korpusom (poleg drugih) trenira semantične mreže za prepoznavo jezika. Glej [1]. — Yerpo Ha? 09:35, 12. julij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Super, za narediti kakšen strojni prevajalnik; vprašanje avtorskih pravic se precej poenostavi. --Eleassar pogovor 17:38, 1. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Page Previews (Hovercards) update

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CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 00:33, 21. julij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Improved search in deleted pages archive

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Pomagajte prevesti v vaš jezik

During Wikimedia Hackathon 2016, the Discovery team worked on one of the items on the 2015 community wishlist, namely enabling searching the archive of deleted pages. This feature is now ready for production deployment, and will be enabled on all wikis, except Wikidata.

Right now, the feature is behind a feature flag - to use it on your wiki, please go to the Special:Undelete page, and add &fuzzy=1 to the URL, like this: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=1. Then search for the pages you're interested in. There should be more results than before, due to using ElasticSearch indexing (via the CirrusSearch extension).

We plan to enable this improved search by default on all wikis soon (around August 1, 2017). If you have any objections to this - please raise them with the Discovery team via email or on this announcement's discussion page. Like most Mediawiki configuration parameters, the functionality can be configured per wiki. Once the improved search becomes the default, you can still access the old mode using &fuzzy=0 in the URL, like this: https://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AUndelete&fuzzy=0

Please note that since Special:Undelete is an admin-only feature, this search capability is also only accessible to wiki admins.

Hvala! CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 20:40, 25. julij 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Share your thoughts on the draft strategy direction

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Zdrávo! I'm sorry that I'm not writing in Slovene. Pomagajte prevesti v vaš jezik!

At the beginning of this year, we initiated a broad discussion to form a strategic direction that will unite and inspire people across the entire movement. This direction will be the foundation on which we will build clear plans and set priorities. More than 80 communities and groups have discussed and gave feedback on-wiki, in person, virtually, and through private surveys[strategy 1][strategy 2]. We researched readers and consulted more than 150 experts[strategy 3]. We looked at future trends that will affect our mission, and gathered feedback from partners and donors.

In July, a group of community volunteers and representatives from the strategy team took on a task of synthesizing this feedback into an early version of the strategic direction that the broader movement can review and discuss.

The first draft is ready. Please read, share, and discuss on the talk page. Based on your feedback, the drafting group will refine and finalize this direction through August.

  1. Cycle 1 synthesis report
  2. Cycle 2 synthesis report
  3. New Voices synthesis report

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (pogovor) 12:33, 10. avgust 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Question about articles regarding proverbs

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Hi, sorry for writing in English. There are some lists of proverbs on Wikiquote, and I wanted to add an English label on Wikidata. What can it be?

Thank you for your help :-) --Superchilum (pogovor) 11:01, 1. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

User:Superchilum, these would be Ashanti proverbs, Little Russian (i.e. Ukrainian) proverbs, Fula (Senegal) proverbs. --Eleassar pogovor 17:24, 1. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]
User:Eleassar thank you very much :-) regarding "Maloruski pregovori", if it's "Ukrainian proverbs" what's the difference with "Ukrajinski pregovori"? --Superchilum (pogovor) 09:53, 4. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]
You're welcome. Regarding the Little Russia/Ukraine question, an exact explanation surpasses my knowledge, but I don't consider them synonyms. Please see en:Little Russia and en:Little Russian identity. --Eleassar pogovor 21:48, 4. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]
Ok, now it's clear, thank you again :-) --Superchilum (pogovor) 10:17, 5. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Draft strategy direction. Version #2

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In 2017, we initiated a broad discussion to form a strategic direction that will unite and inspire Wikimedians. This direction will be the foundation on which we will build clear plans and set priorities. More than 80 communities and groups discussed and gave feedback[strategy 1][strategy 2][strategy 3]. We researched readers and consulted more than 150 experts[strategy 4]. We looked at future trends that will affect our mission, and gathered feedback from partners and donors.

A group of community volunteers and representatives from the strategy team synthesized this feedback into an early version of the strategic direction that the broader movement can review and discuss.

The second version of the direction is ready. Again, please read, share, and discuss on the talk page on Meta. Based on your feedback, the drafting group will refine and finalize the direction.

  1. Cycle 1 synthesis report
  2. Cycle 2 synthesis report
  3. Cycle 3 synthesis report
  4. New Voices synthesis report

SGrabarczuk (WMF) (pogovor) 13:14, 11. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

RfC regarding "Interlinking of accounts involved with paid editing to decrease impersonation"

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There is currently a RfC open on Meta regarding "requiring those involved with paid editing on Wikipedia to link on their user page to all other active accounts through which they advertise paid Wikipedia editing business."

Note this is to apply to Wikipedia and not necessarily other sister projects, this is only to apply to websites where people are specifically advertising that they will edit Wikipedia for pay and not any other personal, professional, or social media accounts a person may have.

Please comment on meta. Thanks. Send on behalf of User:Doc James.

MediaWiki message delivery (pogovor) 23:06, 17. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Discussion on synced reading lists

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CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 22:35, 20. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Cat-a-lot

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Inštaliral sem vtičnik Cat-a-lot, vendar se čudno obnaša. Pojavi se samo v vsaki peti ali sedmi naključno izbrani kategoriji. Včasih je treba stran kategorije večkrat naložit in se spet pojavi. Na Wikiviru je videt, da deluje brezhibno. Če je kdo pri volji, ga prosim, če še sam stestira delovanje, tudi na Wikiviru. --  Janezdrilc 16:54, 25. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Zadnje par dni opažam tudi, da vtičnik HotCat ne deluje v celoti (možno je z njim dodajati kategorije, ni pa več možno spreminjati obstoječih). Prosim poglej, če je to mogoče zaradi strani MediaWiki:Gadget-HotCat.js/local defaults, ki si jo ustvaril. — Yerpo Ha? 10:59, 26. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Zdaj ko je Pinky popravila vtičnike, deluje Cat-a-lot brezhibno. Edino HotCat ne izpisuje več gumbov za spreminjanje pri vsaki kategoriji. Local defaults skorajda ne bi smel delati težav, saj vsebuje samo gole prevode. Me je pa opozoril uporabnik na Zbirki, ki mi je posredoval Cat-a-lot, da imamo MediaWiki:Common.js precej nestabilen in da bi ga bilo dobro pregledati s http://jshint.com/ (manjkajo zaključki in še druge stvari). --  Janezdrilc 20:18, 26. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Vtičniki so popravljeni le za silo, tako da ne povzročajo več težav. Zato nekateri delujejo v celoti, nekaterim pa kakšen gumb ali funkcija ne deluje. Tako npr. pri WikEd-u ne deluje iskanje in zamenjava besedil. Za njih si je še potrebno vzeti čas. -- Pinky sl (pogovor) 20:35, 27. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Sem malo popravila tudi MediaWiki:Common.js, tako mi sedaj dela tudi WikEd in tisti odpri/zapri so sedaj na začetku zaprti, kot mora biti (npr Predloga:Liberalizem sidebar). Počasi se daleč pride. Je pa v našem MediaWiki:Common.js še polno duhov, nisem .js ekspert ... tako, da če bo kdo opazil, da kaj čudno sedaj dela, lahko vrne MediaWiki:Common.js nazaj. --Pinky sl (pogovor) 20:28, 2. oktober 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Mislim, da smo pred leti HotCat vzeli direktno iz en, ker z lokalno različico kar naprej kaj ni delalo (kot sedaj popravljanje kategorij). --Sporti (pogovor) 14:42, 1. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Wikimedia Movement Strategy Phase 2, and a goodbye

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Žívjo,

As phase one of the Wikimedia movement strategy process nears its close with the strategic direction being finalized, my contractor role as a coordinator is ending too. I am returning to my normal role as a volunteer (Tar Lócesilion) and wanted to thank you all for your participation in the process.

The strategic direction should be finalized on Meta late this weekend. The planning and designing of phase 2 of the strategy process will start in November. The next phase will again offer many opportunities to participate and discuss the future of our movement, and will focus on roles, resources, and responsibilities.

Hvála, SGrabarczuk (WMF) (pogovor) 23:41, 30. september 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

presenting the project Wikipedia Cultural Diversity Observatory and asking for a vounteer in Slovenian Wikipedia

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Hello everyone,

My name is Marc Miquel and I am a researcher from Barcelona (Universitat Pompeu Fabra). While I was doing my PhD I studied whether an identity-based motivation could be important for editor participation and I analyzed content representing the editors' cultural context in 40 Wikipedia language editions. Few months later, I propose creating the Wikipedia Cultural Diversity Observatory in order to raise awareness on Wikipedia’s current state of cultural diversity, providing datasets, visualizations and statistics, and pointing out solutions to improve intercultural coverage.

I am presenting this project to a grant and I expect that the site becomes a useful tool to help communities create more multicultural encyclopaedias and bridge the content culture gap that exists across language editions (one particular type of systemic bias). For instance, this would help spreading cultural content local to Slovenian Wikipedia into the rest of Wikipedia language editions, and viceversa, make Slovenian Wikipedia much more multicultural. Here is the link of the project proposal: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Wikipedia_Cultural_Diversity_Observatory_(WCDO)

I am searching for a volunteer in each language community: I still need one for the Slovenian Wikipedia. If you feel like it, you can contact me at: marcmiquel *at* gmail.com I need a contact in your every community who can (1) check the quality of the cultural context article list I generate to be imported-exported to other language editions, (2) test the interface/data visualizations in their language, and (3) communicate the existance of the tool/site when ready to the language community and especially to those editors involved in projects which could use it or be aligned with it. Communicating it might not be a lot of work, but it will surely have a greater impact if done in native language! :). If you like the project, I'd ask you to endorse it in the page I provided. In any case, I will appreciate any feedback, comments,... Thanks in advance for your time! Best regards, --Marcmiquel (pogovor) 23:33, 9. oktober 2017 (CEST) Universitat Pompeu Fabra, Barcelona[odgovori]

Napačna letnica v rubriki "Na današnji dan"

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Opazil sem, da je v rubriki "Na današnji dan" pri navedbi Irinega atentata na Margaret Thatcher omenjena napačna letnica, namreč 1994, pravilna letnica pa je 1984 (glej: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brighton_hotel_bombing). V članku o 12. oktobru sem to ročno popravil, vendar se na glavni strani še vedno pojavlja 1994. Predlagam, da administratorji to popravijo. --Jalen (pogovor) 11:31, 12. oktober 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Za ta poseg ne rabiš administratorskih pravic. Samo uredi Wikipedija:Izbrane obletnice/12. oktober, pa bo. — Yerpo Ha? 11:32, 12. oktober 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Narejeno, ampak meni se na glavni strani še vedno prikazuje 1994. --Jalen (pogovor) 11:40, 12. oktober 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Aha, zdaj pa štima. --Jalen (pogovor) 11:44, 12. oktober 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]
Ja, osvežiti se mora predpomnilnik, kar lahko traja nekaj časa, če ne narediš ročno. Tudi vsem, ki bodo prišli na glavno stran od spremembe naprej, se bo prikazalo prav. — Yerpo Ha? 11:45, 12. oktober 2017 (CEST)[odgovori]

Razdelitev dolgih seznamov

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... kot Seznam naselij v Sloveniji (P), se vam zdi v redu? --Andrejj (pogovor) 23:30, 2. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Mogoče s fiksno širino tabel, da ne zgleda razmetano (takole)? Bolj bo treba paziti tam, kjer se ime začne s samoglasnikom, da bodo podpoglavja uravnotežena po dolžini. Lahko si pomagamo z združevanjem, tako kot na koncu pri P. — Yerpo Ha? 06:41, 3. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Bolje, ja. Ali pa še tako: == Pšajnovica - Puževci == --Andrejj (pogovor) 08:05, 3. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Leto je naokoli in spet je čas za izbor slike leta. Prvi krog izbora poteka do 10. decembra 2017, nato slike z največ glasovi čaka še drugi, finalni krog. --Ϻ Zaplotnik prispevki 06:31, 10. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Štartali smo s finalnim krogom izbora: Wikipedija:Izbrane slike/Slika leta 2017/Finalni krog. Lani je v finalnem krogu glasovalo 25 uporabnikov, letos upam na še večjo udeležbo. Ϻ Zaplotnik prispevki 06:41, 11. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

V mojem Firefoxu besedilo "Glasujte za sliko leta na slovenski Wikipediji. Finalni krog glasovanja poteka do 31. decembra 2017." na prvi strani nima aktivnih povezav. Tudi, če kliknem na modro obarvan del, se ne zgodi nič. --romanm (pogovor) 05:21, 21. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Meni se v Firefoxu 57 vse prikaže in dela kot je treba. --M11rtinb (pogovor) 19:48, 21. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]
Če dosti klikam na stran z glasovanjem, tudi pri meni povezava v pasici včasih ponikne, a se potem po nekaj klikih spet pojavi. Ne pomnim, da bi bila pri preteklih banerjih kdaj težava s tem. Uporabljam pa WebKitov Maxthon. --Ϻ Zaplotnik prispevki 14:39, 26. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Za tiste, ki še niste glasovali v finalnem krogu: le tri dni časa za glasovanje je še ostalo. Ϻ Zaplotnik prispevki 00:13, 29. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Changes to the global ban policy

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Hello. Some changes to the community global ban policy have been proposed. Your comments are welcome at m:Requests for comment/Improvement of global ban policy. Please translate this message to your language, if needed. Cordially. Matiia (Matiia) 01:34, 12. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

IČ za naslednji teden

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Imamo en goden predlog. Bi lahko še kdo glasoval, da vem, kaj naredit z glavno stranjo za naslednji teden? Seveda ostali predlogi tudi ostajajo, ampak za tiste ni tako nujno. — Yerpo Ha? 19:12, 12. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Odličen članek, potreboval bi le lekturo. Slogovno sem nekoliko uredil uvod. --Eleassar pogovor 01:18, 24. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Ptolomejci

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V slovenskih člankih, povezanih z Aleksandrom Velikim, njegovimi nasledniki in Starim Egiptom se uporabljajo imena Ptolemej, Ptolomej in Ptolemaj in posledično Ptolemejska, Ptolomejska in Ptolemajska dinastija. Ker je o tej dinastiji do zdaj napisano zelo malo, je verjetno pravi čas, da se odločimo za enotno poimenovanje. V Seznamu faraonov se v odstavku Ptolomejska dinastija dosledno uporabljajo imena Ptolomej. I., Ptolomej II. itd. Ostanemo pri tem? --Octopus (pogovor) 18:29, 22. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Pozdravljen. Glede na normo (SP), rabo (GigaFida) in priporočila strokovnjakov (B. Aubelj) je najprimernejši zapis Ptolemaj. Tako da če boš poenotil, predlagam, da poenotiš na to varianto. --Eleassar pogovor 01:15, 24. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Hvala! --Octopus (pogovor) 07:21, 24. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

O podobni zadregi poenotenega poimenovanja je bilo govora tudi pri starogrškem naravoslovcu z enakim imenom na tamkajšnji pogovorni strani. Sam sem naknadno preveril rabo predlagane različice 'Ptolemaj', lahko pa rečem, da sem še vedno v dvomih. Verjetno pa je strokovna razlaga zakaj je najprimernejša/najpravilnejša ta oblika lahko kar preprosta. --xJaM (pogovor) 12:27, 6. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]
V zvalniku (vokativu) je oblika neatiške različice starogrško Πτολεμαῖε: Ptolemaîe. --xJaM (pogovor) 10:34, 10. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

New print to pdf feature for mobile web readers

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CKoerner (WMF) (talk) 23:07, 20. november 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Prevajanje obstoječih člankov

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Orodje za prevajanje novih člankov je super. Do sedaj mi je uspelo prevesti in objaviti že dva članka tretji pa je še v delu. Poizkusil sem prevesti že obstoječi članek (članek ki obstaja v obeh jezikih le da je slovenska verzija zelo okrnjena). Pri tem sem dobil opozorilo, da članek že obstaja in, da je potrebno spremeniti ime prevedenega članka. Zato me zdaj zanima kake so možnosti prevajanja že obstoječih člankov z orodjem, ki ga ponuja Wikipedija? --zvitorepec (pogovor) 16:20, 2. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Konflikt interesov

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Anchek94 je ustvarila članek o študentski reviji Artepakt, pri kateri sodeluje kot urednica. Zmenila sva se, da je lahko članek v glavnem imenskem prostoru, ko bodo o reviji pisali v Primorskih novicah, ne strinja pa se, da bi bila na vrhu oznaka {{KOI}}, ki bi se meni zdela smiselna, saj je avtorica v konfliktu interesov. Mnenja? — Yerpo Ha? 18:38, 4. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Hvala, da si odprl to temo. Res bi rada, da prispevek prebere še kdo drug, ker se meni ne zdi sporen, čeprav sem ena od članic uredniškega odbora. Če pa se prispevek še komu zdi subjektiven, naj pove, kaj je tisto, kar je subjektivno, pa bom to dala ven. Naj še dodam, da niti en stavek v prispevku ni "moj", ampak je čisto vse povzeto ali iz uvodnika Artepakta ali iz revije Goriška (lahko preverite). Anchek94 (pogovor) 19:02, 4. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Meni se zdi članek objektivno napisan in bi ga "objavil". Edino fraza o "grdem pisanju" je bolj kot ne zavajajoča, saj utegne kdo na prvo uho misliti, da je šlo za kritiko, blatenje ali celo vulgarno pisanje. V kontekstu, v katerem se nahaja, bi bilo boljše na primer "zaradi napake pri pisanju". Če prav razumem, so študentje sami prispevali predloge za ime revije – to je dobro v članku dodati, da bo bolj razumljivo. --  Janezdrilc 20:57, 4. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Hvala za odgovor, to o "grdem pisanju" sem popravila. Anchek94 (pogovor) 22:22, 4. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

V članku manjka vir. Polonica (pogovor) 09:10, 5. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Polonica: mišljeno je, da se članek "postavi", ko bo obstajal vir (avtorica pravi, da je v pripravi članek o njeni reviji v Primorskih novicah). — Yerpo Ha? 10:06, 5. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]

Ja, tako je. Aja, pa še nekaj: nisem urednica revije, ampak ena od članic uredniškega odbora, in sicer lektorica. Sicer tukaj to nima nobene veze, ampak si ne želim jemati zaslug za nekaj, kar nisem. :) Anchek94 (pogovor) 11:38, 5. december 2017 (CET)[odgovori]